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		<title>By: Evan Gearing</title>
		<link>http://blog.richcharpentier.com/2010/02/dear-generic-frame-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-1815</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Gearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Dave said.. Hear hear!  It&#039;s like the old hot dog and bun thing... When buying hot dogs, they used to come 10 in a pack and the buns were always 8 in a pack.  It seems that industry has learned, so hopefully this industry will!
.-= Evan Gearing&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://egearingphoto.blogspot.com/2010/02/public-of-tex.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Public Of Tex&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Dave said.. Hear hear!  It&#8217;s like the old hot dog and bun thing&#8230; When buying hot dogs, they used to come 10 in a pack and the buns were always 8 in a pack.  It seems that industry has learned, so hopefully this industry will!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Evan Gearing&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://egearingphoto.blogspot.com/2010/02/public-of-tex.html" rel="nofollow">Public Of Tex</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://blog.richcharpentier.com/2010/02/dear-generic-frame-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has actually confused me for a long time.  Back in my film days we where taught the rule of thirds and the golden ratio, but when I would print my shots my photo paper came in 5x7, 8x10, 11x14 etc.
.-= Josh&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.jgosell.com/?p=462&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Finally Some Snow&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has actually confused me for a long time.  Back in my film days we where taught the rule of thirds and the golden ratio, but when I would print my shots my photo paper came in 5&#215;7, 8&#215;10, 11&#215;14 etc.<br />
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		<title>By: Richard Charpentier</title>
		<link>http://blog.richcharpentier.com/2010/02/dear-generic-frame-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Charpentier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Mark.  Adolfo had mentioned you in his comment as well.  Just pulled your site up too, so I&#039;ll have a look around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Mark.  Adolfo had mentioned you in his comment as well.  Just pulled your site up too, so I&#8217;ll have a look around.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rogers</title>
		<link>http://blog.richcharpentier.com/2010/02/dear-generic-frame-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richard, That is exactly why I founded Frame Destination, Inc. We carry all the sizes you mentioned as frame size for unmated and also as mat opening sizes for matted framing. We have over 60 frame sizes and over 80 mat sizes. 
Cheers, Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard, That is exactly why I founded Frame Destination, Inc. We carry all the sizes you mentioned as frame size for unmated and also as mat opening sizes for matted framing. We have over 60 frame sizes and over 80 mat sizes.<br />
Cheers, Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Adolfo Isassi</title>
		<link>http://blog.richcharpentier.com/2010/02/dear-generic-frame-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-1808</link>
		<dc:creator>Adolfo Isassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Richard! This has been a torn on my side for years.
I found two sources that have pre-cut mats and frames in 1.5 aspect ratio (native aspect ratio of aspc and 35mm):

- Light Impressions
- Frame Destination

I use these for smaller prints, 11&quot;x17&quot; and 13&quot;x19&quot; - anything bigger, usually needs to go to the custom shop.
.-= Adolfo Isassi&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://adolfoisassi.blogspot.com/2010/02/laptop-monitor-calibration.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Laptop Monitor Calibration...&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Richard! This has been a torn on my side for years.<br />
I found two sources that have pre-cut mats and frames in 1.5 aspect ratio (native aspect ratio of aspc and 35mm):</p>
<p>- Light Impressions<br />
- Frame Destination</p>
<p>I use these for smaller prints, 11&#8243;x17&#8243; and 13&#8243;x19&#8243; &#8211; anything bigger, usually needs to go to the custom shop.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Adolfo Isassi&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://adolfoisassi.blogspot.com/2010/02/laptop-monitor-calibration.html" rel="nofollow">Laptop Monitor Calibration&#8230;</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Charpentier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Charpentier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I just don&#039;t know about &quot;judges&quot; Dave.  Years ago I submitted an amazing image to a wildlife photography contest and got an interesting response.

I took a photo of a Loon only a few feet from my kayak.  This loon swam right up to me.  One judge&#039;s response.....

I don&#039;t know why you did a monochrome photo and left the bird with &quot;red eye&quot; in it.

Ummm....Not monochrome.  Loons are black and white.  And they have red eyes.

You just can&#039;t please everyone, so be sure to at least enjoy it yourself!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I just don&#8217;t know about &#8220;judges&#8221; Dave.  Years ago I submitted an amazing image to a wildlife photography contest and got an interesting response.</p>
<p>I took a photo of a Loon only a few feet from my kayak.  This loon swam right up to me.  One judge&#8217;s response&#8230;..</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you did a monochrome photo and left the bird with &#8220;red eye&#8221; in it.</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;.Not monochrome.  Loons are black and white.  And they have red eyes.</p>
<p>You just can&#8217;t please everyone, so be sure to at least enjoy it yourself!  <img src='http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,

  Oddly enough, that&#039;s been my solution too (and, given the price of custom framing, they often work out cheaper than a framed paper print). Last exhibition I had canvases in, however, the judge told me that she didn&#039;t like photography unless it was printed on paper, matted on white and framed in narrow black metal. I guess you can&#039;t please everyone.
.-= Dave Wilson&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DaveWilsonPhotography/~3/SKXm1Vl6QE0/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silicon Labs Building, Austin, Texas&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,</p>
<p>  Oddly enough, that&#8217;s been my solution too (and, given the price of custom framing, they often work out cheaper than a framed paper print). Last exhibition I had canvases in, however, the judge told me that she didn&#8217;t like photography unless it was printed on paper, matted on white and framed in narrow black metal. I guess you can&#8217;t please everyone.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Dave Wilson&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DaveWilsonPhotography/~3/SKXm1Vl6QE0/" rel="nofollow">Silicon Labs Building, Austin, Texas</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Charpentier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Charpentier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too funny Jason!  My suggestion?  Canvas gallery wraps!  I&#039;ll print to whatever you specify!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny Jason!  My suggestion?  Canvas gallery wraps!  I&#8217;ll print to whatever you specify!  <img src='http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far from being alone - the bane of any photographers existence...we tend to want to shoot wider by instinct now because we know we&#039;ll lose some edge detail when we go to print in standard frames...what to do, what do to, woe is us! :)

Kidding on that last part Rich! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far from being alone &#8211; the bane of any photographers existence&#8230;we tend to want to shoot wider by instinct now because we know we&#8217;ll lose some edge detail when we go to print in standard frames&#8230;what to do, what do to, woe is us! <img src='http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kidding on that last part Rich! <img src='http://blog.richcharpentier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Charpentier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Charpentier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I&#039;m not alone Dave!  I think we should investigate further.  I&#039;ve got a feeling that this runs deeper than just keeping mat cutters in business.  Where is agent Mulder when you need him?

I print for several local portrait photographers.  And they always need 8x10 so they can get a generic frame.  And I always show them how horrible the crop will be.  The tears well up in their eyes as they say, &quot;But I don&#039;t want to pay for a custom frame.....&quot;

It&#039;s a sad state of affairs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I&#8217;m not alone Dave!  I think we should investigate further.  I&#8217;ve got a feeling that this runs deeper than just keeping mat cutters in business.  Where is agent Mulder when you need him?</p>
<p>I print for several local portrait photographers.  And they always need 8&#215;10 so they can get a generic frame.  And I always show them how horrible the crop will be.  The tears well up in their eyes as they say, &#8220;But I don&#8217;t want to pay for a custom frame&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sad state of affairs!</p>
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